"Any nation of that religion (Christianity) should be destroyed." This coming from esteemed Jewish thinkers? Major world societies have been infected with benign appearing enemies that seem to have infiltrated to the highest places of influence.
Imo, I didn't see anything worth discussing in this one. What did you think was worth discussing from the video? A possible Jewish agenda to eradicate European white people? A video of short inflammatory phrases cut together could be used to discuss any far out thing. I'd rather have more proof behind something to make it worth discussing.
No. You made a HUGE mistake. Please cease this now. And most leaders in our govt are not “ Jewish “ as you claimed. I’m honestly disappointed in you. You mentioned Schumer and others but there are MORE non Jews. Go count them. Then get back to me
This is bizarre. One guy sounds just like ISIS. The west does seem to be hit the hardest in general, whether by design or not. Africa seems to have dodged a bullet when I thought they’d be hit hard. It could be the outdoor lifestyle, or something more sinister like owing China lots of money who want their monthly payments or even something like what they take. All I know is covid has changed the world for a long time, if not forever & very much for the worse.
Txs BOB and GRACE!! "Grace [De Niro’s wife] and I have a child with autism," he said in a statement, "and we believe it is critical that all of the issues surrounding the causes of autism be openly discussed and examined."
Covid/vaccine deaths are far higher in the west than in the ROW. The west is being attacked from seemingly all vectors (I.e. food, energy, inflation, loss of jobs, unfettered immigration, illegal drugs, education, culturally, etc. you could go on and on) Happen chance? I think not. Someone/some group/some organization or organizations are attacking us. The WEF, our own government, Orthodox Jews, I don’t know. it feels like we’re at the bottom of a pig pile and It’s definitely a global group coordinated effort.
I’m honestly disgusted with this post. 90% of World Jewry are NOT ultra Orthodox. We are reform or conservative. These creeps DO NOT represent us ! To post this and not put up a disclaimer that this is the Uktra Orthodox view feeds into anti semetism. I cannot support this poster if this continues. Ugh
Disclaimer in the main article, viewable by clicking the link below the video above, was added to this article:
As mentioned in the reference article, statements by rabbis are presented in an attempt to understand current events, encourage discussion, and help people stay alive and healthy.
This newsletter rejects racism and antisemitism and draws no conclusions about these statements.
You say that "These creeps DO NOT represent us !" What they do represent is a doctrinal adherence to both the Torah and the Talmud (but especially the Talmud) as to relations with the gentiles. You say you are disgusted with James Hill's post. That's certainly your right. But would you deny non-Jews the right to be disgusted with Jewish hatred of gentiles or with the belief that Jews are to rule over humanity that is promulgated by the doctrinal sources? If Jewish people want to claim that they (2 percent of the world's population) are God's chosen people, superior to the rest of humanity (98 percent of humanity), then they open themselves up to critique. You can call the rabbis in the videos creeps, but they are voicing, for the most part, what is contained within the Torah and the Talmud, the two pillars of Judaism. And we should not get sidelined by debating the meaning of "chosen" or "superior." Even secular Jews carry a sense of chosen-ness that is nothing short of superiority. I know as I was born to Jewish parents and brought up as a nominal Jew.
Further, consider the fact that ISIS members are a radical fringe of the more than 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. While the majority of Muslims disavow the coercive and violent actions and tactics of ISIS, and, in fact, consider them murderous creeps, that doesn't mean that Muslims don't want the end results of the ISIS enterprise. Muslims do want an Islamic worldwide caliphate; they do want shariah law to prevail; and they do want all people to convert to Islam. From my studies and experience, Islam is a mixed bag of good and bad. And since it openly propagates and seeks converts, and believes that it is God's true religion and will ultimately triumph and establish its rule, then it is open to full and honest critique, discussion, and debate. And the holy book of Islam, the Qur'an, is subject to analysis and critique.
Judaism does not seek converts but it presents itself as the ultimate truth; and Jews, such a small sector of humanity, seek to triumph and rule over all of humanity. That, according to Judaism, is their destiny. So the Jewish scriptures and beliefs and practices are also subject to analysis and critique, hopefully taking place in an honest and respectful way.
Vidalia. I appreciate the lengthy reply. Just because you claim 1 out of 4 will be Orthodox doesnt take into account that there will be less secular and reform Jews through intermarriage especially if father is Jewish. Secondly, you state that Im denying non jews disgust. NO. I am refusing to allow anti semitism. Thats not just disgust. To promote these two creeps as authorities is not accurate. So that IS anti semitism since there was no counter balance by Other Ultra Orthodox as well as reform or conservative rabbis. Nor do I agree with your personal belief and claim that " If Jewish people want to claim that they (2 percent of the world's population) are God's chosen people, superior to the rest of humanity (98 percent of humanity), then they open themselves up to critique. You can call the rabbis in the videos creeps, but they are voicing, for the most part, what is contained within the Torah and the Talmud, the two pillars of Judaism. And we should not get sidelined by debating the meaning of "chosen" or "superior." Even secular Jews carry a sense of chosen-ness that is nothing short of superiority. I know as I was born to Jewish parents and brought up as a nominal Jew." if you were not raised as a Jew ( you say nominal which means you didnt attend Sunday school or Temple or any significant yearly holidays" ) then you cannot possibly know how the rest of us who were raised Jewish feel and whether we believe we are " superior." That statement in itself is ignorant and dangerous. I will not be responding further. I will let my previous comments stand
Hi Jane — Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I would just mention a few points:
You say that you are "refusing to allow anti-semitism." Can you please define what anti-semitism is? Do you recognize that there is a difference between critiquing a belief system or ideology and wishing ill of a person or people? If I criticize Islam for its shariah punishment for adultery, stoning to death, does that mean I hate Muslims or wish them harm? If I criticize American foreign policy, pointing out that its interventionist wars have killed millions, is that anti-Americanism? It is too easy to simply whitewash away any critique of Judaism, any Jewish person, or Israel by claiming that is it anti-semitic or feeding anti-semitism.
You write that it is ignorant and dangerous to bring up the sense of superiority that Jews feel. If you want to refute that Judaism teaches that Jews are the chosen people of God, then please do that. But I think we can agree that that would be a non-starter. Judaism teaches that Jews as a people are chosen by God, that God has made them “supreme, above all the nations,” that they are “a treasured possession” and that “He will set you high above all nations which He has made, for praise, fame, and honor”(Deuteronomy 26:18-19), and many other verses along these lines. So, if I identify myself as a Jewish person, whether Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or even secular, then I have identified myself with a belief system built on the concept of “chosen-ness.” Some forms of Judaism and some Jewish individuals play down the “chosen people” concept or try to give it a more palatable interpretation, but the fact remains that Judaism revolves around the idea of Jews being chosen by God and loved by God more than all other humans. If I actively believe that, or even if I simply grew up with that indoctrination, I will more than likely feel a sense of separateness, specialness, and preeminence. And knowing, as we do, about the human ego, who would not feel some sense of superiority, even if it is disconnected from an orthodox belief in the religion and all it teaches.
As to my upbringing, I did go to Sunday School and often went to services on Friday nights and on the high holy days at our reform synagogue.
You say that the views of the ultra-orthodox rabbis do not represent “us.” I presume you mean all Jews. I agree with you. But if you want to be Jewish without the religion of Judaism, that’s fine. But you can’t then complain that the religionists, those who follow the tenets of Judaism, don’t represent you. If you call yourself a Jew, then you will be at least implicitly tied to Judaism as it exists and is propounded by its own texts and teachings. And the core tenets of Judaism are supremacist.
James Hills’ column is presenting a rabbinic viewpoint that is much more common among Jews than one would like to admit. The ultra-orthodox have increasing power and influence in Israel. In 2014, Netanyahu said at a conference that the Talmud would form the basis for Israeli law, as reported in Israel National News. That does not have much meaning to the average person unless he or she has read exposés of the Talmud that note the anti-gentile discourse that unfortunately informs halachah (Jewish law).
I know that my comments and discussions like this cause discomfort. But either the information is accurate and the arguments sound, or they are not. Analyzing and critiquing a belief system or ideology, and doing it in a sincere yet outspoken way, is far different than wishing ill upon any person or people.
"Any nation of that religion (Christianity) should be destroyed." This coming from esteemed Jewish thinkers? Major world societies have been infected with benign appearing enemies that seem to have infiltrated to the highest places of influence.
Who claims they are “ esteemed Jewush. Thinkers ?! “ nobody in MY reform order conservative community.
There are probably extremists in every walk of life that have weird ideas about eliminating their perceived demons.
Videos like this, that obviously cut in and out of different videos without context, aren't worth posting on in my opinion.
Perhaps they’re at least worth discussion, given the high stakes.
Imo, I didn't see anything worth discussing in this one. What did you think was worth discussing from the video? A possible Jewish agenda to eradicate European white people? A video of short inflammatory phrases cut together could be used to discuss any far out thing. I'd rather have more proof behind something to make it worth discussing.
THANKYOU!
No. You made a HUGE mistake. Please cease this now. And most leaders in our govt are not “ Jewish “ as you claimed. I’m honestly disappointed in you. You mentioned Schumer and others but there are MORE non Jews. Go count them. Then get back to me
I’m not aware of anyone claiming that.
How does this theory explain the push to jab Israelis (but not Palestinians)?
Not privy to classified information, I don’t know the answer.
Here are possible considerations:
1) Researchers‘ claim injections vary in their ingredients.
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/vaccine-components-will-enter-brain?autoPlay=true
2) There are no serial numbers on jab vials or cartons, by secret contract provisions.
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/covid-vaccine-dangerous-features
3) The spike protein is ethnically targeting.
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/covid-is-an-ethnic-bioweapon
This is bizarre. One guy sounds just like ISIS. The west does seem to be hit the hardest in general, whether by design or not. Africa seems to have dodged a bullet when I thought they’d be hit hard. It could be the outdoor lifestyle, or something more sinister like owing China lots of money who want their monthly payments or even something like what they take. All I know is covid has changed the world for a long time, if not forever & very much for the worse.
Txs BOB and GRACE!! "Grace [De Niro’s wife] and I have a child with autism," he said in a statement, "and we believe it is critical that all of the issues surrounding the causes of autism be openly discussed and examined."
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/28/11317718/robert-de-niro-vaxxed-tribeca-film-festival
Covid/vaccine deaths are far higher in the west than in the ROW. The west is being attacked from seemingly all vectors (I.e. food, energy, inflation, loss of jobs, unfettered immigration, illegal drugs, education, culturally, etc. you could go on and on) Happen chance? I think not. Someone/some group/some organization or organizations are attacking us. The WEF, our own government, Orthodox Jews, I don’t know. it feels like we’re at the bottom of a pig pile and It’s definitely a global group coordinated effort.
I’m honestly disgusted with this post. 90% of World Jewry are NOT ultra Orthodox. We are reform or conservative. These creeps DO NOT represent us ! To post this and not put up a disclaimer that this is the Uktra Orthodox view feeds into anti semetism. I cannot support this poster if this continues. Ugh
Disclaimer in the main article, viewable by clicking the link below the video above, was added to this article:
As mentioned in the reference article, statements by rabbis are presented in an attempt to understand current events, encourage discussion, and help people stay alive and healthy.
This newsletter rejects racism and antisemitism and draws no conclusions about these statements.
Jane, the number of ultra-orthodox Jews worldwide is one in seven, which is 14 percent. So you were pretty close. Interestingly, an article in Haaretz (https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2022-05-03/ty-article/.premium/nearly-one-in-four-jews-will-be-ultra-orthodox-by-2040-new-study-says/00000180-98a2-dab4-a187-9babda7e0000), cites a study done by the Institute for Jewish Policy Research in London in which current numbers are expected to increase from one in seven to one in four Jews being ultra-orthodox by 2040. That would mean that 25 percent of Jews will be ultra-orthodox. That starts to be a pretty significant number.
You say that "These creeps DO NOT represent us !" What they do represent is a doctrinal adherence to both the Torah and the Talmud (but especially the Talmud) as to relations with the gentiles. You say you are disgusted with James Hill's post. That's certainly your right. But would you deny non-Jews the right to be disgusted with Jewish hatred of gentiles or with the belief that Jews are to rule over humanity that is promulgated by the doctrinal sources? If Jewish people want to claim that they (2 percent of the world's population) are God's chosen people, superior to the rest of humanity (98 percent of humanity), then they open themselves up to critique. You can call the rabbis in the videos creeps, but they are voicing, for the most part, what is contained within the Torah and the Talmud, the two pillars of Judaism. And we should not get sidelined by debating the meaning of "chosen" or "superior." Even secular Jews carry a sense of chosen-ness that is nothing short of superiority. I know as I was born to Jewish parents and brought up as a nominal Jew.
Further, consider the fact that ISIS members are a radical fringe of the more than 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. While the majority of Muslims disavow the coercive and violent actions and tactics of ISIS, and, in fact, consider them murderous creeps, that doesn't mean that Muslims don't want the end results of the ISIS enterprise. Muslims do want an Islamic worldwide caliphate; they do want shariah law to prevail; and they do want all people to convert to Islam. From my studies and experience, Islam is a mixed bag of good and bad. And since it openly propagates and seeks converts, and believes that it is God's true religion and will ultimately triumph and establish its rule, then it is open to full and honest critique, discussion, and debate. And the holy book of Islam, the Qur'an, is subject to analysis and critique.
Judaism does not seek converts but it presents itself as the ultimate truth; and Jews, such a small sector of humanity, seek to triumph and rule over all of humanity. That, according to Judaism, is their destiny. So the Jewish scriptures and beliefs and practices are also subject to analysis and critique, hopefully taking place in an honest and respectful way.
Vidalia. I appreciate the lengthy reply. Just because you claim 1 out of 4 will be Orthodox doesnt take into account that there will be less secular and reform Jews through intermarriage especially if father is Jewish. Secondly, you state that Im denying non jews disgust. NO. I am refusing to allow anti semitism. Thats not just disgust. To promote these two creeps as authorities is not accurate. So that IS anti semitism since there was no counter balance by Other Ultra Orthodox as well as reform or conservative rabbis. Nor do I agree with your personal belief and claim that " If Jewish people want to claim that they (2 percent of the world's population) are God's chosen people, superior to the rest of humanity (98 percent of humanity), then they open themselves up to critique. You can call the rabbis in the videos creeps, but they are voicing, for the most part, what is contained within the Torah and the Talmud, the two pillars of Judaism. And we should not get sidelined by debating the meaning of "chosen" or "superior." Even secular Jews carry a sense of chosen-ness that is nothing short of superiority. I know as I was born to Jewish parents and brought up as a nominal Jew." if you were not raised as a Jew ( you say nominal which means you didnt attend Sunday school or Temple or any significant yearly holidays" ) then you cannot possibly know how the rest of us who were raised Jewish feel and whether we believe we are " superior." That statement in itself is ignorant and dangerous. I will not be responding further. I will let my previous comments stand
Hi Jane — Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I would just mention a few points:
You say that you are "refusing to allow anti-semitism." Can you please define what anti-semitism is? Do you recognize that there is a difference between critiquing a belief system or ideology and wishing ill of a person or people? If I criticize Islam for its shariah punishment for adultery, stoning to death, does that mean I hate Muslims or wish them harm? If I criticize American foreign policy, pointing out that its interventionist wars have killed millions, is that anti-Americanism? It is too easy to simply whitewash away any critique of Judaism, any Jewish person, or Israel by claiming that is it anti-semitic or feeding anti-semitism.
You write that it is ignorant and dangerous to bring up the sense of superiority that Jews feel. If you want to refute that Judaism teaches that Jews are the chosen people of God, then please do that. But I think we can agree that that would be a non-starter. Judaism teaches that Jews as a people are chosen by God, that God has made them “supreme, above all the nations,” that they are “a treasured possession” and that “He will set you high above all nations which He has made, for praise, fame, and honor”(Deuteronomy 26:18-19), and many other verses along these lines. So, if I identify myself as a Jewish person, whether Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or even secular, then I have identified myself with a belief system built on the concept of “chosen-ness.” Some forms of Judaism and some Jewish individuals play down the “chosen people” concept or try to give it a more palatable interpretation, but the fact remains that Judaism revolves around the idea of Jews being chosen by God and loved by God more than all other humans. If I actively believe that, or even if I simply grew up with that indoctrination, I will more than likely feel a sense of separateness, specialness, and preeminence. And knowing, as we do, about the human ego, who would not feel some sense of superiority, even if it is disconnected from an orthodox belief in the religion and all it teaches.
As to my upbringing, I did go to Sunday School and often went to services on Friday nights and on the high holy days at our reform synagogue.
You say that the views of the ultra-orthodox rabbis do not represent “us.” I presume you mean all Jews. I agree with you. But if you want to be Jewish without the religion of Judaism, that’s fine. But you can’t then complain that the religionists, those who follow the tenets of Judaism, don’t represent you. If you call yourself a Jew, then you will be at least implicitly tied to Judaism as it exists and is propounded by its own texts and teachings. And the core tenets of Judaism are supremacist.
James Hills’ column is presenting a rabbinic viewpoint that is much more common among Jews than one would like to admit. The ultra-orthodox have increasing power and influence in Israel. In 2014, Netanyahu said at a conference that the Talmud would form the basis for Israeli law, as reported in Israel National News. That does not have much meaning to the average person unless he or she has read exposés of the Talmud that note the anti-gentile discourse that unfortunately informs halachah (Jewish law).
I know that my comments and discussions like this cause discomfort. But either the information is accurate and the arguments sound, or they are not. Analyzing and critiquing a belief system or ideology, and doing it in a sincere yet outspoken way, is far different than wishing ill upon any person or people.
Vidalia, thank you for your thoughtful analysis and comments.